“No one but Ukraine can stop Russia”: exclusive interview with Mikhail Podolyak
Podolyak says we need to stop Russia/Channel 24 Collage
The sixth month of Russia's full-scale war against Ukraine continues. The Armed Forces of Ukraine professionally destroy infidels, because it is Ukraine that should stop Russia. So says Mikhail Podolyak. He also assures that there will be no negotiations with Russia yet.
- 1About explosions at a military airfield in Crimea
- 2″Russian special services were involved in explosions in Crimea, Russia or Belarus”
- 3″Detonation” will accompany Russian warehouses for another 2-3 months”
- 5Why negotiations with Russia are now impossible
- 6About Russia's nuclear blackmail at the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant < /li>
On Russia's blackmail at the ZNPP, explosions in the occupied Crimea, the destruction of occupiers' warehouses and the impossibility of negotiations with Putin – read in an exclusive interview with Advisor to the Head of the President's Office Mikhail Podolyak, which was broadcast < strong>Channel 24 .
About explosions at a military airfield in Crimea
Mikhail Podolyak commented on powerful explosions at military airfield near Novofedorovka in the annexed Crimea. He stressed that these events indicate that there will be a war on the de-occupation of Crimea.
According to him, Crimea is de jure the territory of Ukraine, in full. Although for some time our partners believed that this territory was completely controlled by Russia, so we need to be careful about hostilities there.
But such a significant incident at the airport ” Saki” demonstrated that Crimea is indeed Ukrainian territory, there will be a war on de-occupation. For 5 months, the partners wanted to talk about anything, but not about Crimea. Today they understand that this is a part of Ukraine that should be released, – said the adviser to the head of the OP.
Podolyak noted that the Crimean bridge has been the subject of discussion in the media many times. But the airfield “Saki” was not discussed. It turned out that both objects are quite symbolic for Ukraine.
“We are informationally wise. We talk less about things that are really important, but we talk about propaganda things in public. We know how to work… And talking about things that can cause panic in Russian society is the right behavior,” Podolyak explained.
He stressed that the Russians in Crimea are an occupying society. There is a military part of the occupation and a public part of the occupation, which simply took away buildings and houses from Ukrainians.
“To explosions Russian special services are involved in Crimea, Russia or Belarus”
However, according to Podolyak, all cases, such as explosions at a brewery in Donetsk, a military unit in Russia and an airfield in Belarus, are all “roots” in the Russian special services.
According to him, Russia is doing this, in particular, in order to excite its population, to say “stand up a huge country, let's go to war”.
They want to try and “mobilize” sentiment. Because covert mobilization is underway, but there are few who want to fight. Everyone understands what a strange war this is, where Russians only die,” says Podolyak.
The adviser to the head of the Presidential Office believes that with such events, Russia wants to somehow influence its population and get the opportunity for forced mobilization. To do this, the Russian special services create all these conflicts, in particular in Russia and Belarus.
Podolyak recalled that in 1999, when the second Chechen war began, all the explosions of residential buildings in Moscow or other Russian cities, where many people died, were made by the Russian special services to justify the war.
“They do the same today, so we must understand this and be prepared for such provocations,” he said.
But Podolyak assures – what happened on August 9 in the Crimea, will hit Russia's plans to mobilize the population. Therefore, it is important that there be more such panic among Russians.
“Detonation” will accompany Russian warehouses for 2 more – 3 months”
According to him, the Russians say they destroy 100 Ukrainian planes or 25 submarines somewhere in the steppes a day. However, they add that it was a “small detonation”.
I think that over the next 2-3 months this “small detonation” will accompany almost all the compositions of the Russian army. Therefore, statements about “small detonation” and “carelessness in the handling of Russians” at warehouses or airports will only increase, Podolyak said.
He explained that Russia is fighting according to Soviet standards – the invaders form strike groups in specific directions in order to capture a certain amount of territory.
According to Podolyak, for this to work, the Russian military needs to be provided with fuel,
“It was easy for them to fight when they could bring this support closer to the front line. But today they are forced to move all this as far as possible to the rear. Thus, we are breaking the logistical provision of Russian troops,” he said.
The adviser to the head of the OP added that this will aggravate the logistics, and the pace, and the number of losses. “And this is a completely different type of war for which the Russians are not quite ready,” he summed up.
“the Russians blocked the ability to manufacture modern weapons”
According to him, China and other countries do not have the technology to compensate Russia for the ability to build any amount of modern weapons.
Therefore, Russia, says Podolyak, is investing heavily in several narratives. The main thing is that Ukraine should sit down at the negotiating table – and immediately. After all, now the enemy has peak territorial achievements.
At the same time, in the event of a protracted war, Russia's desire is clear: the enemy wants Ukraine to receive as few weapons as possible. This, according to the infidels, will force the Armed Forces of Ukraine to get stuck in a certain territory and force the Ukrainian authorities to negotiate.
The official says that the Russians today are hysterically looking for an opportunity to somehow replenish their armed forces.
“To do this, they are negotiating with Iran and the DPRK. They want to buy certain types of weapons there, although Russia itself has such” weapons that have no analogues. “But they only have 90% of inaccurate Soviet weapons “, – sarcastically remarked the adviser to the head of the OP.
On Erdogan's position towards Russia. Podolyak noted that Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan continues to negotiate with Putin, guided by purely pragmatic considerations. Both the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and intelligence clearly monitor this, Ukraine is in constant dialogue with Turkey.
“Putin does not understand if certain promotions with other countries are successful today, and they can agree on something, but it's still the way down. These promotions are much more expensive than they could be for a normal country,” the adviser to the head of the OP explained.
Moreover, for these countries, as Podolyak emphasized, alternatives are gradually being offered. Therefore, Putin will have fewer and fewer opportunities to negotiate something with someone.
Podolyak assured that the Ukrainian army is attacking Russian targets with precision weapons and thus disrupting any support for Russian troops .
But most importantly, protest moods are starting to grow in the occupied territories. Everyone understands that this war will not go the way it did in 2014. It will continue until the liberation of our territory. Therefore, people can show a pro-Ukrainian position,” he said.
The adviser to the head of the Presidential Office suggested that in the future they would increase the number of sabotage in the warehouses of Russians and losses among the “leaders” of the occupying troops. And this will provoke panic among the Russians.
In his opinion, Russia is only now beginning to understand what kind of war it has received.
“After all, the Russians “came” for 3-7 days, but I still don't understand whether the three days for which they wanted to capture Kyiv have already passed. Maybe we just misunderstand these days. Perhaps they have one day – this is half a year, “added Podolyak.
Why negotiations with Russia are now impossible
The adviser to the head of the Presidential Office says that Ukraine will by no means negotiate with Russia in the current situation. The new conditional “Minsk-3” can literally destroy the state.
He notes that the occupiers do not just constantly throw in the opinion that Ukraine needs to be forced to sit down at the negotiating table. They want to secure the occupied territories. And then just finish off the state.
If today we fix a new demarcation line on the conditional Minsk-3, we will get not Ukraine, but the infamous Ruin, – emphasizes Mikhail Podolyak.
He believes that the consequences for Ukraine from such negotiations will be catastrophic. Here are a few potential options for what happens next in this case:
- Russia will believe that it has won.
- Russia will constantly provoke and threaten Ukraine regarding the following stages of war, escalation, etc.
- Russia will not abandon further plans to occupy the entire Black Sea area.
- All money will leave Ukraine. No one will invest in a state that has “frozen” in a full-scale war.
- People will not return. No one wants to go, for example, to Kharkov or Nikolaev, where shelling can resume at any moment.
Podolyak notes that the state will begin to decline sharply. Ukraine will not be able to restore export potential in agriculture, metallurgy, chemistry, etc. There will be problems with electricity, because the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant will be under the control of infidels.
“There will be a huge number of problems. Therefore, all this talk about negotiations that need to start already is actually talk about Ukraine ceasing to exist. If not because of the war , then because of the rapid decline,” Mikhail Podolyak emphasized.
According to him, if there are negotiations, but Ukraine rejects Russia's ultimatums, this will also not give anything, but will only aggravate the situation. “Conditionally, Russia will demand to reject claims to Kherson and other occupied territories. Of course, Ukraine will not agree to this at all,” he replied.
In his opinion, it is quite possible that there will be a certain truce at the front during the negotiations. When Ukraine sees that it is impossible to reach an agreement with Russia on adequate terms, it will have to resume hostilities. And then the invaders will begin to hysteria en masse that Ukraine is interested in the war.
Imagine that the negotiation process lasts 7 days. During this time, the occupiers will show no shelling of the territories – there will be a certain calm. When we give up Russia's demands, we will resume hostilities. And what will Russia say? They will scream hysterically in all the European media that have gone to a truce, and Ukraine wants to fight. And allegedly all the consequences that will be are the fault of Ukraine, – explains the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office.
Podolyak's reaction to Indonesia's proposal for negotiations. The day before, the president of this country said that if Putin came and Zelensky came to the summit in Indonesia, perhaps he would be ready to become a mediator for them.
According to him, it sounds amazing when the person does not comment on the Russia-Ukraine war at all, but suggests this.
“It’s generally strange for me when someone says “I’m ready to be a mediator.” What do you understand in the word “mediator”? What will you do? You can definitely talk or take a general photo by heart and say that there was mediation. “, – said the adviser to the head of the President's Office.
Mikhail Podolyak noted that it is important to remember that Putin thinks absolutely irrationally. He does not understand what is happening at all, and also there is no whole amount of information. This distinguishes him from Vladimir Zelensky, who really has all the information: the motives for the war, the consequences, how it should end.
” Putin still lives in the illusion that controls the process. In addition, he has such a super mental goal – to go down in history as a powerful emperor, a collector of lands,” Mykhailo Podolyak emphasized.
He noted that Ukraine has a very difficult mission. After all, no one can stop Russia except us in its current form.Ukraine is the only country that clearly understands what the Russians are doing, who they are, why they need to be stopped and why we will pay the highest price to do it.
On Russia's nuclear blackmail at the Zaporozhye NPP
Let us remind you that on August 11, Russian infidels once again fired at the Zaporozhye NPP and the territories near the nuclear facility. In addition, Russia wants to connect our nuclear power plant to its energy system.
However, Podolyak believes that Russia's claims that it will take the Ukrainian nuclear power plant is partly blackmail.
However, the occupiers did indeed take the ZNPP. They did this in order to steal our electricity production and send it to the annexed Crimea. After all, in principle, the peninsula is not connected to the power grids of Russia. – he explained.
The adviser to the head of the Presidential Office noted that the ZNPP is the territory of Ukraine, it is attached to us and was supplied by us. “And Russia is looking for ways to steal grain, metal and electricity from us and send it to the Crimea. We will not allow it,” he replied.
As for nuclear blackmail , Podolyak stressed that the Russians defiantly bypass the territory of the ZNPP and import heavy weapons to industrial territories, make artillery shells warehouses there.
“Do we have any tools there is, to remove them from there. After all, the pressure of the world community, in particular the G7, has increased significantly in recent days, which frankly speaks in order to return the Zaporizhzhya NPP to Ukraine,” he said.
Adviser The head of the OP added that Rosatom was unable to assemble a team and bring it to the ZNPP territory in order to fully control the production process, it is partially controlled by Ukraine, and Russia deploys its troops there.
Of course, we will take the ZNPP… Nuclear blackmail will continue, because Russia can do nothing more than kill civilians. But the situation at the Zaporozhye NPP is under control,” Podolyak concluded.